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Have strong opinions, but I welcome any civil fact-based discussion.
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Please read the actual resolutions before commenting. Both of them order Hamas to release the hostages. And nowhere in the resolution it green lits the attack on Rafah. Though, interestingly, that’s the exact reason Russia stated for their objection.
And yes, Israel is committing a genocide, so no surpsire they are not complying…
Please read the actual resolution before commenting. It explicitly said “immediate and sustained ceasefire”. The only difference between the two is one condemned the Hamas attack and another didn’t. And yes, US are the worst in all of this, not only they vetoed previous attempts, but also financed all the killings. But if you can’t see the politics behind Russia’s and China’s veto, you are blind.
They were supporting them until Houthis attacks interfered with their supplies, and then they vetoed the ceasefire resolution since it was US proposed. Politics before lives.
You have to be either blind or paid off to say it’s not a genocide to kill 90% of civilians and displace from their home 80% of the total population.
They promised to cease as soon as the U.N. Security Council adopts a resolution for a ceasefire in Gaza.
That is the conclusion you have drawn, but it’s not part of the methodology listed in the survey. They haven’t excluded rural participants from the 17 countries, while explicitly excluding them from 15 countries. If you see no issue with that, enjoy your blinders, but please stop spreading misinformation.
That is the point. When you exclude that group of people only from 15 out of 32 surveyed countries, you skew the results for the whole survey. You can’t draw parallel conclusions from different samples.
Tell me you didn’t read the report without saying you didn’t read the report. Satisfaction drivers are the metrics for the happiness in that report.
That’s a factor sure, but someone living in rural country and urban city will have different happiness index based on their living conditions and satisfaction drivers. So comparing X with Y = flawed results.
Yes, I check the data makeup of every survey I view. The sample data that is not using the same criteria for every participant skews the results. If I ask 10 politicians if they think they are doing a good job I get one set of results, but if I ask 10 McDonald employees if their elected politicians are doing great job, results will be different. If you can see the difference there, then the problem is you, not me.
The samples in Brazil, Chile, China, Colombia, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey, and the UAE are more urban, more educated, and/or more affluent than the general population. The survey results for these markets should be viewed as reflecting the views of the more “connected” segment of their population.
It’s pointless survey.
This is an official statement by the president of Russia as published in TASS which is the official state media. The statement clearly says that Russia’s position is that there needs to be an Independent state of Palestine as originally proposed by the UN. I’m not sure what else you’re asking a source for here?
The article you linked just parrots the TASS that they “reiterated his country’s support”. I asked if you have a source where they initially offered support?
And if you are going to quote me, use the full context, not cherry-picked sentences to fit your argument.
This is identical to what TASS released. But I can’t find where they initially pledged their support for the independent Palestinian state. Do you have a source for that?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/chinas-xi-jinping-backs-just-cause-of-palestinian-statehood
Thanks. Rare area where I agree with China.
The resolutions that US vetoed were the first step. First thing that needs to happen is to stop Israel from doing a ground invasion in Gaza. This isn’t theatre this would literally save countless thousands of lives.
I don’t disagree with you on the merits that the resolution passing would be a positive thing, it’s just that it was a stupid show and nothing else. Everyone going in knew that it won’t pass and everyone was free to vote however they wanted as it would have been vetoed either way if not by US, then by France or UK. So it is theater and political games on internation scale without any real solution.
China has also formally stated that what Israel is doing goes beyond self-defense
As did EU, but it’s pointless words without further actions. Both EU and China pledged humanitarian aid to Gaza, but it can’t even be delivered without Israel approval, and they simply refuse.
Both Russia and China have clearly stated that the UN resolution stating that Palestine has to be granted independence must be implemented.
Do you have a source for that?
Both Russia and China are demanding that Israel stops its genocidal campaign against Palestinians.
Not really. Both resolutions called for humanitarian ceasefire, release of all hostages, aid access, and safe evacuation of civilians. Nowhere, did it acknowledge what is happening in Gaza by the Israel hand same way it didn’t include the language of “self-defense” that Israel and US wanted. Fucking theater, everyone knew going in they wouldn’t pass. Posturing doesn’t solve anything.
I’m talking about oranges, and you are talking about apples. World powers =/ world population.
Where exactly did Russia or China expressed their support for Palestine? All I can see is Russia offering to be a mediator and China urging negotiations which are dead propositions, while the US offers Israel public and financial support for their genocide.
Half the world supports them, another half of the world is agnostic and not doing anything, and the 3–4 countries are against it. No action to stop a genocide is an action in and of itself.
And I said world powers because while Russia and China are agnostic, they are happy with the end result of US using their resources to support Israel.
The nation that experienced genocide themselves now vow to commit it themselves, and the world powers cheer. The world is broken beyond repair.
Yet nowhere in that statement they said that Latvia should be the one to lead the talks. So it’s just shifting the focus.
Are you from Belarus or know anyone in real life that lives there? Because I do, and I can tell you with certainty that people who live there have a different view from yours. So you can insist it’s a NATO propaganda, but I’m sorry I will believe people I actually know and trust over you.
That is rich since imperialist Russia is the one who is occupying parts of Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine.
You claim to be in support of Russia, yet you misrepresent them and their goals. Putin himself said he’s an imperialist and his primary goal before his death is to restore former USSR territories.