I guess USSR was democratic then.

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I know they are allied, Israel and Turkey are not really that hostile between themselves too.

It’s about how optics of all this work on general Western audiences.

I agree Turkey relies less on such corruption. Azerbaijan is pretty similar to Israel in that regard, though. They just don’t need loud approval when silent approval does the job.

It’s very hard for people (well, neurotypical people) to understand what real destruction means when that contests their system of considering themselves (and their friends, their country etc) very cool.

Most of those advocating for bombing cities and big wars would turn into whining piss-smelling sacks of shaking meat the moment they meet one person not weaker than them angry at them in a back alley.

So is Turkey.

But the guilt for colonialism and belligerent Christianity apparently lies so heavy on Westerners, that they are ready to absolve it with the blood of Christians never involved in those.

It’s an especially disgusting kind of virtue signalling to combine being against Israel, but for Turkey and Azerbaijan.

It used religion simply as a component of typical XIX-century romantic nationalism. It was a secular ideology until the last 10-20 years.

By civilized nations you mean whom exactly? European governments are complicit in more than one genocide happening right now, same with USA, China is fine with its own, India is a mess, but TBH without an active massacre happening right now, I think.

Latin America with all those drug cartels and sexual exploitation? I mean, Latin American states indeed are generally civilized on issues of the genocide and self-determination kinds. Most of those issues exist in the old world, though, so - easier for them.

That’s what modern Nazis do - try very hard to defame their opponents as Nazis. Sometimes even their victims. Then any argument from that side is disadvantaged.

Why the fuck I’m even writing this here, it’s obvious, only unless I find a way to kill some bad people doing this, I won’t help things.

The ideas don’t fade, just get expressed via weapons since words lost meaning.

Having it in the laws as something separate from racism was racist in the first place.

These people must know all this does is destroy the legitimacy of your authority.

I think I know what they think - that their authority doesn’t stand on legitimacy, it stands on power. The difference between now and 20 years ago is that modern Web and mass media are better controlled by them, and modern surveillance is another world.

They don’t care about “moral”, they think we’ll just eat it and shut up.

They are fine with a few protests which won’t change the outcome.

Notice how protests in the last decade or so have become less violent, while the crimes against humanity of those governments have become more blatant.

That’s not a coincidence, it’s a strategy of controlling population bringing fruit. People more likely to lead movements are detected and neutralized without ever knowing it, maybe through connectivity, maybe through disinformation, maybe through directing their attention at wrong things, maybe through various kinds of pressure, and I’m sure in a miraculous case where these don’t work nobody will notice a sudden death here and there.

Internationalization of KGB has happened. In Soviet times that was simply a very inefficient system, so it sucked balls compared to the western ones. But now the west both gradually reduced freedoms considered normal, making such control less expensive, and also modern technologies raised its efficiency quite a lot.

Admittedly the palestinians are hitting back harder than the jews were able to at the time,

No they are not. A few Israelis killed here and there is not “harder”. Just modern weapons are different.

That’s called a Nazi apologist law. That’s making a subset of Nazis accepted and censoring those against them at the same time.

I thought I won’t see such decay in my lifetime, but then life is never boring.

My wall of text is saying that you want innocent people to be condemned, fighting against failsafe for that.

Thus you are a criminal and should hang.

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You are attacking civilized people who are trying to tell you that a lynching crowd is not the society.

Do you realize how certain one has to be to accuse a person of such a crime?

Would you want to live in a world where 1 of 100 considered guilty is innocent?

Would you feel the same way if you’d be that?

Do you realize how probabilities work?

If something has a 1 in a 1000 probability, then from time to time it happens.

And then the final question - do you consider it too much of a bother to go through investigative process with civilized legal proceedings to confirm what is true and reduce the probability of a mistake?

Which is especially indicative of their personal qualities in the light of the fact that if he really is a pedophile, proving it won’t be hard.

A 3% probability of this being innocent would be too big to discard.

People seem too comfortable with huge margins of error when judging others.

The problem here is Smotrich and the Netanyahu government.

Can they just send a few killer drones after the two guys mentioned? It’s fair game, USA uses those outside of its territory, Israel uses those outside of its territory.

Of course there’s going a shitfest of indignation from Israelis, but that’ll be in any situation which is not successful ethnic cleansing with no consequences.