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  • I have seen PLA videos of basically an urban combat live fire on static targets.

    You get an absurd amount of keyholing at ranges that between 5 to 10 to 20 meters.

    Its possible this particular image is from a longer distance static range, but the keyholing problem seems to be quite widespread, irrespective of range.

    As has already been said, something is going seriously wrong with either the guns, bullets or both that are being mass produced for around a year now.


  • The QBZ family of rifles, both the older bullpup Type 95 and its variants, and the newer Type 191, fire a 5.8 x 42mm round, not the AK 74 ‘poison bullet’.

    While I am sure the PLA has tons of 47s, and 74s still in active use, their efforts to modernize have included introduction of and seemingly wide issuance of the QBZ 95 family since roughly the early 2000s, and more recently the Type 191.

    Usually when they do publicity videos or images, they like to show off the QBZ family.


  • Could keyholing of … seemingly this magnitude… be the result of basically laughably bad tolerances in internal barrel width, or perhaps the barrels are made of some kind of alloy that expands significantly from heat?

    I have only ever seen keyholing in western gun videos from basically burn downs… but even then after a barrel is nearing its end of life by manufacturer specs, its more common to get some kind of failure to feed, significantly decreased precision and only occasional keyholes.

    Maybe another possibility is similarly poor quality alloy of some kind used in the cartridge itself?

    Combination of all of these things?

    I remember seeing a fairly recent video of some kind of PLA MOUT type urban course… and you could see massive keyholing on targets that were like 5 to 10 meters away.

    The prevalence of it baffles me. Ive personally dealt with and seen misfires and jams of various kinds at ranges, but I’ve never even seen a keyhole occur in real life.




  • Only non shit multi barrel rifle I’ve ever handled irl was an old break action 2 barrel, one for 22, one for 410 shells. Old ranch hand / rural keep the vermin away type thing. Must have been made in the 60s.

    Barring something like that… I cannot actually think of any real weapon that I’d say was a multi barrel rifle, do you have more examples?

    First thing that pops into my head is I think Arma 3, the CSAT have some kind of assault rifle thats got one magazine thats close to 5.56 or 5.45, its some intermediate rifle range that doesnt really exist… and then for some reason also has like 5 rounds of some kind of 12.7/50 cal.

    Second thing I can think of is back from BF 42 days, I think DC or DCR had an M4 that also had a masterkey underbarrel shotgun. Those are/were real, but it doesnt count as its a shotgun.

    Thirdly… Metal Storm? I don’t think they ever managed to make that into anything resembling a rifle though.



  • The actual, serious complaint I have by far heard the most often by actual shooters and reviewers is that the trigger pull is clunky and much more significant on bullpups than on non bullpups.

    While I have not shot a bullpup… I find it odd that nearly all of the reviewers I have seen complain about this to the point of it being a widespread meme and point of mockery… it doesnt seem to actually affect their accuracy or drill times much, and they will all tell you they don’t use bullpups anywhere near as often as non bullpups… so its kind of a self fulfilling prophecy in that… im sure if they practiced more, even that small discrepancy would lessen.

    Other sort of silly complaints I’ve seen are that they bruise and cut their hands when trying tonuse it like a longer weapon that can set up against a rock or other object to establish a firing position, because they are used to having more weapon length after where their hand grips on the barrel shroud.

    The most legitimate concerns IMO are ease of field stripping and maintenance, though this seems to be improving with more modern designs, and the ejection port position making the gun very unfun for a lefty with brass and gas flying into your face… but there are bullpups with ambidextrous configurable ejection ports, or a few oddballs with downward or forward facing ejection ports that solve this problem.

    Many will also complain about awkwardness of reloading and length of pull, but given that multiple world militaries seems to not have a problem using bullpups as service rifles, seems to me that sufficient practice would negate these issues. There also exist bullpups with adjustable stocks.

    I have actually seen a study that shows that inexperienced shooters have better performance in terms of drill time and accuracy with bullpups over standard rifles, and experienced shooters with lots of standard rifle experience, while they do perform better with standard rifles, significantly overestimate how much better they were with the standard rifle in comparison to the bullpup.

    If youre interested, the american youtube gun community seems to begrudgingly like the VHS 2 / Hellion, and the IWI 95/Tavor. Its pretty difficult to get your hands on many other bullpups that are known from movies or video games in the US as there aren’t civillianized semi-auto variants of them manufactured.