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I’m sorry Iran has a couple of extremely advanced (for the 80s) F-14 air superiority fighters, one or two might even be able to taxi.
So watch it, Pakistan!
The F-14 is still the best dogfighter the US has produced in several decades. The F-35 can’t beat it, although the F-35 can’t beat most anything else in a dogfight.
OTOH, an F-14 that can’t get even get off the ground … That’s a good point.
although the F-35 can’t beat most anything else in a dogfight.
Sure…but the trouble is getting to the dogfight with the 35.
Assuming you’re cool with breaking the Geneva Conventions, sure. I find it a problem that the J-31 made clear we traded dogfighting potential for illegal Over-The-Horizon engagement and a Really Big Fan that isn’t even in the vast majority of F35s that are/will be produced. Insanity.
Meanwhile, middle-eastern countries that won’t play ball with US bullshit are getting on great with China.
Where in the Geneva convention is stealth and beyond visual range (which I think you mean) illegal?
Dogfights are over and they’re not coming back.
IIRC, it was regarging Air to Air engagement, and you got me on Geneva Conventions: It would be International Law, but I’m not having any luck finding anything the US has agreed to at the moment.
I will say, I made zero mention of Stealth. Nothing about Stealth prevents positive target identification once you have visual confirmation. The main reasons not to lob missiles at Stealth aircraft you can’t physically see revolve around not wasting those missiles on birds, kites, or small civilian aircraft.
There’s still the fact that Beyond The Horizon engagement is going to require either pilots firing blind or magically getting some sort of confirmation from a third party(gets dicey with weather or with all the ECM static that would need to be dealt with in a real war involving air to air combat much at all). Meanwhile, legitimate targets move fast enough to enter visual range before that can happen as often as not.
If dog-fighting were over, the F35 wouldn’t even have a gun, or it would be angled downward for ground support, a role which the standard F35 doesn’t/can’t fly slow enough for anyways. This is something that literally led to the design of the F14 in the first place, as they had thought dog-fighting was dead when they fielded the F4 Phantom.
