• rauls4@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I feel for the Palestinians, but Hamas is to blame. They knew what the response would be, yet they decided to savagely attack Israel.

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      9 months ago

      Would you choose a slow guaranteed death through oppression or risk a possible quick death for a better life for all your family and friends?

      I’m asking you. Not your opinion of a whole population. I’m asking you. Imagine yourself in that camp, being bombed daily. What do you choose to do to survive and thrive as a human?

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        There was no guaranteed death, things were very difficult and would have continued to be for a long time. At least there was hope.

        Now there is a guaranteed death, thanks to Hamas.

        “for a better life” in this case the leveling of the entire Gaza Strip and the obliteration of ANY hope of self governance?

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      9 months ago

      Both sides elect people that are OK with their people dying for their own government policies. One attacks to oppress an apparant enemy, the other attacks to free themselves from oppression. They are not the same, yet innocent people suffer and die because of both.

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        9 months ago

        Meanwhile all citizens just want to live their lives in peace.

        It really is tragic and frustrating.

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    9 months ago

    Protest for Palestine: They throw you in jail

    Protest for Israel: giant thumbs up meme

    Anyone not seeing the colonial world order as fascist at this point is well beyond redemption.

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          It’s not the only thing they could, as they could as well not doing it. What they wanted to achieve with it?

          I’m not a palestinian, you aren’t too. How we’d judje if our takes worth anything?

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            To do nothing is to die. That’s not a real choice.

            As for what they achieved? Israel was well on its way to a fascist takeover with the rightist reforms, unprecedented protests were happening inside Israel against the government. Hamas just showed them that their government can not keep them safe and can not be trusted. That’s significant, and it might just save Israeli democracy if this leads to Netanyahu’s ousting.

            Israel was also well on its way to normalizing relations with the entire Arab world, and now Hamas has provoked them into throwing that all out the window and instead inviting condemnation and isolation in the region.

            Hamas has also opened up a new front against the American empire. Now instead of only needing to focus on Ukraine it has had its attention split to the 51st state and Greatest Ally. At the same time, there is no House Speaker. And the Republican frontrunner is a criminal.

            Hamas is smart. They attacked at a very opportune moment.

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              And you don’t believe Hamas’ heads are just opportiunistic assholes like Netanyahu? That they don’t want get money and power from it? Like Hamas don’t have gains and support from dying palestinian civs?

              What Hamas did to palestinians with that attack?

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                No, I don’t. I think Hamas is ready and willing to die to fight Israel. That’s not the behavior of people who only want money and power.

                Hamas has done nothing to Palestinians. This is all Israel. Place blame where it belongs.

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    9 months ago

    It is good to show solidarity with Palestinians - it is not acceptable to cheer for Hamas on the other hand.

    If you are able to differentiate between Hamas and the Palestinians and Israeli government and Israeli people your moral compass still somewhat works.