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This isn’t a separate war, it’s the same US-Iran war that’s being fought in multiple places (Namely Israel-Palestine)

This your first time?

The US has their own equivalent camps on their southern border…

In this case, you can’t blame the leadership, the people who elect them don’t care either.

The borders of the Gaza strip have not changed since the Oslo accord of 1949, all Jewish settlers in that area were forcibly removed by Israel in 2005, and there has been no permanent Israeli presence in that territory since.

Gaza is not fighting for the west bank, they are not fighting for an invasion of their land by settlers… No Hamas is fighting because they’re being paid to do so by Iran.

The west bank is a different issue entirely. Israel is absolutely invading there. It just doesn’t have anything to do with Gaza at this point. They aren’t run by the same government.

Hamas is the official government and controls the army/militants of Gaza, they intentionally massacred almost a thousand civilians in Israel, and then expect them not to close off the border? It was their fucking choice that the border got slammed shut.

On top of Israel, Egypt could let as much aid in as they want through the Rafa crossing, but they’re not allowing much through because they agree with Israel on the current policy. This isn’t just Israel being mean.

There aren’t massive mental gymnastics happening here, this is literally what large world governments are supporting right now. Civilians in these countries are upset at the humanitarian costs, but they simply don’t understand the complexity of the situation.

Iran could stop smuggling weapons to Hamas and end this whole thing very quickly. That’s the point though, Iran doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians, they’re just using them as a pawn to hurt Israel. Hamas’ leaders don’t even live in Gaza, they’re calling the shots from nearby countries where they’re nice and safe and fed.

If the Israelis wanted all Palestinians dead, they will need to dramatically speed up the pace of bombing civilians. Around 55,000 people are born in Gaza every year right now. The reason why 10,000 kids have died in this so far is that about 50% of the civilian population is under 18. Hamas recruits at 16 years of age officially, and sometimes earlier unofficially.

If Israel loved bombing civilians so much, why did they wait to get attacked before the started dropping so many bombs again?

You’re delusional if you think this has anything to do with what they “love” doing. Almost a thousand Israeli civilians were massacred, they want to stamp out Hamas in retaliation and they’re not going to let Hamas get away simply because they’re hiding behind human shields.

I wonder how many Hamas fighters are without food.

Hamas doesn’t give a shit about it’s own civilians either.

How the fuck would the UN know that there was “no rationale” for these strikes.

The UN doesn’t have intelligence on Hamas’ day to day movements inside Gaza. Why would they, it’s not their job at all to monitor that.

And Hamas would definitely take the warnings Israel is giving and move military assets to a place they thought was going to be safe. It was clearly a trap.

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People in that region have been killing each other for thousands of years.

You want to look at historical attacks. There were entire Jewish cities in the wiped out a thousand years ago under the ottoman empire by Islamic citizens of the region.

You want to talk with the big boys perhaps do your research before you spout off.

Dropping support for Israel is going to result in is more dead Israeli citizens, because Hamas sure as hell won’t stop attacking Israel just because Israel stops bombing them. Iran would laugh all the way to the bank where they would grab some more money to fund Hamas.

The government of the Gaza Strip (Hamas) was behind an intentional attack on Civilians that prompted this whole mess.

The government of Israel is intentionally attacking civilians in retaliation, mostly because those civilians are being used as human shields or are complicit with or supporting Hamas.

The whole thing is shit, and likely will not be resolved until Iran or the US back down on their support and the other side pushes out whoever lost support.

Edit: To all you idiots downvoting. Do you think Ukraine should jus give up territory to save civilian lives too? You’re being naive. There’s a reason why the governments of the western nations are still supporting these countries. These situations are a lot more important than you think for the balance of world power.

I thought you might be referring to the 1983 attacks.

I was a little underdeveloped at that age to be aware of everything going on.

Doesn’t look like he stopped anything though, given that fighting continued despite the ceasefire for a few more years, and that Israel still attacks Lebanon on a regular basis because of Hezbollah.

After the bombings? That would have been done by primarily US troops, so of course he could stop it with a phone call.

I don’t have a problem with people disrupting traffic to protest, I have a problem with people doing it for a purpose that the government can’t actually achieve, with only a few people, or in places that don’t make sense for the cause.

If you want to disrupt it over some local (to at least the country) issue, and you have enough popular support to host an actual rally with hundreds or thousands of marchers blocking the road, go right ahead and disrupt traffic. If you’re marching about the environment, rally at a park then march to a government office. If you’re marching about police brutality, go sit down outside a police station.

Unfortunately, The US government is not the Israeli government. The most they could do is exert pressure on Israel, which to be fair is quite a lot of pressure given it’s the US, but I highly doubt that Israel would stop immediately even if the US asked them to. In this case, from the pictures, they also only had enough people to make a single line across the road. The location isn’t relevant to anything either.

You’re grouping together people who were not together. The different tribes that existed were similar to the countries that exist today, though obviously a little less formal in nature.

It’s not a civil war when two different tribes fought. Any more than it would be a civil war if Canada and the US fought.

Each other.

These people fought, they aren’t some sort of saints that always got along peacefully for 60,000 years.

This part of history always gets ignored, but there are archeology studies showing it definitely happened.

Stolen land? Every single person alive today is on stolen land. The only difference is how recently their ancestors stole it.

Even the first nations of North America stole land from other tribes for a few millenia before the Europeans showed up and stole it all.

The world has never been, and will never be, a static place.

There are plenty of reasons to help out disadvantaged or oppressed groups, ownership of land just isn’t one of them.