Just…one…more…turn…

Not the per mille. Your symbol was “c / o” or “c / 0”

I really would love to feel proud about this as a Turkish citizen, or feel good about this as a person in this world witnessing this current instance of the continuous oppression and genocide, but I really have more doubts than these feelings when it involves Erdoğan and caring about human lives/rights or sincerity.

The move expands last month’s restriction on some Turkish exports to Israel, as President Recep Tayyip Erdogan steps up criticism of the Jewish state and tries to consolidate support among conservative voters at home.

The last part is the most likely part, because he is doing jack shit to alleviate the already abysmal living standards by meaningful approaches like utilizing taxes and national resources for people’s prosperity instead of filling his unborn grandkids’s pockets further down a millennium. Anything other than addressing this issue is just a smokescreen to goad disgruntled and hungry right-wing nationalists into voting for him again, especially after his party AKP’s crushing defeat in local governments and municipalities.

Besides, I’m sure he is lining up for another bribe into his pocket as he most likely did with his stance on the NATO accession of Sweden, which he similarly shouted and cried about cutting off monetary activities of PKK there for about a few months before timidly accepting a international-politics-wise verbal “okay we accept”, which was promptly called back after the accession was accepted.

Another likely and probably concurrently-running possibility is that he is sucking up to his Qatari sugardaddies, who as everyone knows house some of the high ranking Hamas leaders. Erdoğan has been forming very very close ties with Qatar in recent years, from mutual military personnel training programmes to selling ports, mountain assets, energy tenders, etc. at dirt cheap prices and long leases, to begging money when the Turkish economy he singlehandedly ruined heads to another steep dive into abyss every few months.

So yeah, it will definitely hurt Israel both in economy and reputation at some level, but don’t expect anything with sincere concerns as the reason behind Erdoğan’s actions.

And weapons form the US and cheers from Germany to do it.

Of course it will be more sanctions, more pressure to other countries to denounce Iran, more proxy war with funding literal terrorist groups and telling them to hit whoever the US doesn’t like, also probably bomb a few Iranian assests because what actually can they do?

An open war rather requires justified claims. It is gruesome and the horrible results are directly tied to the war. A combination of sinister proxy war, subterfuge, coercion and forced poverty are slow killers and will have way fewer dissidents. It is the name of the game for half of the US oppression policing on the world.

Thank you for the explanation. Unfortunately I can’t reach the link. It seems the generation of the symbolism originates in the extremist groups, so I’m wrong in pointing the connection to the other side.

However, I’m still strongly against historic revisionism through whitewashing some elements and making appropriate depictions a taboo, whether in books or in cultural elements like games, video, or other things. The more we separate these things as strict black and white things, the more we are numbed to the gradual shift in the evil’s direction. Making things taboo and learned underhand via shady gatherings or groups only serves them, does not help rationally put that knowledge into the right mental place.

The font resembles it after someone made the connection and put it forward as obvious, but still it is just some extreme connection imo. What are they gonna do next, ban the symbol from history books or popular games like Wolfenstein?

Also, (deep sigh) what does 88 symbolize? Care to inform the “ignorant”?

1 year with total blockade on aid and raining down bombs is long enough for life in Gaza to end and Israel to begin settling it over the bones of infants. Sounds good enough for American Zionists to effectively invade and occupy the whole land while saving face through the “we took precautions while regarding UNRWA’s integrity” narrative.

Disgusting piece of shits, worthless of the air their breath. No matter the nationality, gender, age, skin color, language, life experience, nor any other distinction, maybe barring mental illnesses that can cause such an evil ridicule for human life, can be an understandable reason for such cruelty. Baby killers by obstruction of aid on their way to grow up and continue to be baby killers by guns.

Hope they, along with the other Zionist piece of shits, experience horrific deaths befitting their behaviour.

I know you didn’t mean bad by it, but talking about justice like that? I know we don’t live in times of Hannibal and an eye for an eye isn’t productive or progressive at all, but Israel, and not just the current scpagoat Bibi the Genocider, has decades of oppression and genocide they have to pay for.

To even think about justice, Israel needs to:

• Go back on all the land it invaded and occupies during the current conflict.

• Give back all the land its “settlers” has stolen through gunpoint.

• Give back all the land it has taken through direct military invasion.

• Pay reparation to the next of kin (to those families it didn’t wipe out completely).

• Pay for all the public amenities and residential structures it has wiped out over and over, basically rebuilding the country, with the interest accumulated through repeated stifling of the Palestinian country.

• Demilitarized for some decades like the post WWII Germany was justly subjected to.

• Cede to a UN mandate for its defense so it will be kept in check while also being protected.

I don’t know why the Jewish people need an ethno-state as if this is the 19th century, but this would be the starters for a justice without uprooting the whole people from the place they have been living in with the land given to them by British lordship and the UN mandate, both of whom have turned a blind eye to genocide, warcrimes and invasions Israel has inflicted in the Middle-East for decades.

Going back to main topic, I don’t think Biden will do or say anything about the current landgrab and damage Israel has caused. He’ll just play to the downfall of the current scapegoat of the Zionist endeavour, after he has been a good boy for it, and shut the matter until another scapegoat and and excuse for more genocide and landgrab is prepared for the next decade.

Only 3? I thought we were closing on a decade with this joke now.

Putin was picked by the US

I could easily say that for many other current/previous seemingly democratically elected rulers or outright dictators of underdeveloped or developing countries, starting with Kissinger and continuing it with Blinken now, but about Putin? You need to put some evidence, or at least some plausible mental gymnastics, behind this claim so as not to be ridiculed left and right.

It is not preventable to get down with it, but the vaccines reduce its effects so much that even people with chronic breathing illnesses or organ transplants can handle it like a moderate flu. Mileage will vary from person to person, of course.

Your direct point stands, but it is still a huge win for pro-vaccination.

The moment (for the thousandth time) when your country’s leader sells your country to western resource firms, licks boots of the 5th US president he has shaken hands with, turns a blind eye to PKK-YPG terror organization support in Sweden and concedes without any firm action for the promises made to stop overt support, buys shitton of literal trash from the European countries, gets kicked out of F-35 programme although being one fo the 6 founding countries because the US wouldn’t sell Patriot system at first, then the country still gets called genociding on its effort on the border to provide stability in the face Syrian army and ISIS first, now the PKK-YPG that is overtly supported by the US and the west.

Western hypocrisy at full display once again.

Biden to Bibi:

"Pal,

Get your house in order already. Hard evidence about your army’s war crimes and genocide, unlike your bullshit claims we keep supporting and coercing the rest of the world to support, have leaked today, as well.

No big matter, though. May these weapons find you in good genocides.

Your best fan, Joe."

“To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold.” - France foreign minister, according to the article’s first line.

What moral threshold, mr. foreign minister? Moral threshold that separates the western “right and responsibility” to invade, occupy, do mass massacres, out the people through genocide by both killing them by the thousands and destroying or stealing their cultural heritage, funneling all if their natural resources at dirt cheap prices to add to your own wealth? Hmm, maybe it isn’t slavery when you just "outsource"it?

What moral threshold? Something like “Israel government can’t be fascists because they are the ruling organization over a people that were put through Holocaust by our then-enemies-but-current-allies, so only we can form any narrative about them?”

Western democracies’ hypocrisy on full display as usual. Defenders of the human rights, only when it is their people and when they comply with their hegemonic agenda.

Almost every nation in the South America, West Africa, East Europe, Middle Asia and individually-located notable countries like Turkey and Mexico recognize the Palestinian statehood, while not officially taking any stance in China’s Xinjiang policies. There is a whole lots of difference, more than 7 if you are into childrens drawings games, openly visible in very distinct and legible colors for normal human perception. Maybe you are in a “western propaganda corporate” that can’t find the differences.

The question is, do you deny the internationally proven, caught-in-the-act photographs and videos of killings of thousands of civilians by IDF, most of which are children, minors and innocent adult men and women. I’m not even mentioning the after-action reports, which can be exaggerated or outright set up as we have seen in most IDF reports and some Hamas reports.

Do you mean to say your humanism extends only to be used as political grounds for making up a casus belli against countries your Anglosphere (plus Japan and S. Korea) doesn’t like and would love to get a piece of, since we have seen what it did to the countries in South America and Middle East in the last century?

I am a proponent of the current human rights and individual identity being exercised in European countries. I wish that level of personal freedom could be exercised in the rest of the world. However, I’m aware of the circumstances in which these developed, including colonialism, exploitation, invasions and slavery and the resulting robbery of wealth of the rest of the world, hiding behind the war machines of innocent science and reason.

What we see from these maps is how your developed countries are lying and genociding hypocrites, compared to rest of the world’s utter piece of craps being blatant genociders. Go have your eyes or brain checked, we are tired of your subversive attempts at acquitting genocide committed by your Israeli government allies.

Hey, we are becoming Westernized.

Pointy jokes aside, Erdoğan has proven time and time again to keep to whatever American interests in Middle East. His speeches are only for keeping face and making propaganda in domestic affairs, nothing else mostly.

Not sure, but lately his sugardads may be shifting towards Saudi and Qatari princes and oil barons, but they like Israel anyway.

Incontinentia buttocks

To be honest I would argue the sentiment that this approach isn’t what most Israeli civilians envisioned for some years now, but seeing as how all actions taken by both IDF and Israeli government, I seriously doubt this guy is alone in his fascist thoughts when he bursts out these inhumane sentiments.

I would advise against defending these genocidal state apparatus, nor mixing the views of civilian population of Israel with these bloodthirsty colonialist monsters.

Israeli people are innocent in this conflict, as are Palestinian people. However, Palestinian people are too poor and oppressed from all sides to make a conscious decision to root out Hamas, so the part of responsibility that falls on them is hard to accomplish. Israeli people, on the other hand, still have enough faculties, although at the brink of destruction by the fear-mongering campaign of Bibi the Genocider, to carry out their part of the responsibility in forming peaceful living by dismantling their current terrorist and fascist government (at the elections at worst).

What I advise is don’t try push the blame under a rug by making scapegoats out of a few people while letting the rest ruin the last semblance of your democracy.