While an aggressive attitude won’t change the mind of bigots, a polite and respectful response to someone who advocates for forcing kids to go through the wrong puberty is going to be especially difficult for people with personal trauma for it, and it’s unreasonable to expect it of them.

I think it’s a reasonable reaction to throw polite discourse out when people use “moderate” as a cover for their bigotry. This is like when “moderate” person said that segregation of black people was reasonable when people were fighting for their civil rights, and that since the moderates weren’t pro-slavery so they were the good guys. No, you’re not the good guys, you’re just not as bad as the super evil guys. Congrats.

Now I won’t tell you to “fuck off and die”, but I will tell you to fuck off. If you were someone I personally knew, I would have put in the effort to be polite and try to educate you or whatever, but since we don’t know each other it’s unlikely to land.

I say it as someone who used to think like you.

That was a nod to Great Moments in Unintended Consequences. (Example)

The Year: 2092

The Problem: Timezones are annoying

The Solution: Space mirrors! A series of mirrors in space would rotate to keep the entire planet under a single time zone. A perfect global time system is born!

Sounds like a great idea! With the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?

I like being able to rotate 90° one of my screen because sometimes it’s just the best way to work.

PL setups are the best.

I am a staunch opposer to the death penalty, and believe no crime, no matter how severe warrants an execution, but I wouldn’t lift a finger to stop the execution of Nestlé executives because they aren’t worth a single calorie spent on their defence.

What? I was talking about Vietnam, just because they are communist now doesn’t mean they will stay communist. I didn’t mean that Russia is communist now, perhaps I wasn’t clear in phrasing.

USSR collapsed and looks at Russia now. Just because they are communists now doesn’t mean they won’t become fascist in the future.

Can you trust it would stay that way? There is no such thing as immunity from fascism.

But when the death penalty is available, it’s not just the ultra wealthy who suffer. It’s far easier for the ultra wealthy to use their resources to frame someone they don’t like as a murderer or something and get that person executed. It’s even easier for the state to do that if they are corrupt enough. I’d much rather not give the state the right to sentence anyone to death at any point. Make these ultra rich criminals go to prison for the rest of their lives, make it unpardonable too.

Yes, people do escape, but it’s extremely rare. I’m far more worried about the state having the legal power to execute someone than an individual escaping from prison.

Also, giving the prisoner the choice to either be executed or imprisoned for life would give an incentive for the operators of the prisons to treat their prisoners even worse so prisoners would choose to be executed.

Point about escaping/pardon. I acknowledge that society is ever so slightly safer when exceptionally dangerous criminals are executed.

About the risk of being pardoned by a malicious state, it’s true… But the other way could also be true that a malicious state can execute people who don’t deserve to be executed, like Snowden… Perhaps a compromise is to make particularly heinous crimes unpardonable? That would be a decent alternative to the death penalty, and it would be very difficult to repeal such a law.

As for escaping prison, it’s already rare that someone escapes from it. The solution is making better high security prisons for the most violent and dangerous criminals. I think it’s definitely possible to make escaping so difficult and dangerous that it wouldn’t be a problem. Make a prison on an island or an old oil rig, implants to track the prisoner’s location (a fancier version of the anti-theft tags in clothing stores), random X-rays to check they don’t have anything hidden in their bodies. All of these are definitely better than executing someone, though personally I think that maximum security prison breaks are already so rare it wouldn’t be worth it.

If the person goes to prison for the rest of their lives, it will keep society safe from them either way. The death penalty is not making society safer.

I think people like her deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison, but no crime, no matter how severe, deserves a death penalty.

I didn’t say it was a byproduct, I just questioned the intelligence of the people behind it, since they don’t truly gain anything other than enemies.

Claim they want to improve their citizen’s safety, but do everything in their power to make enemies at every turn. Real smart of them. How can none of these morons in their government think “let’s not antagonise everyone around us”? Any 10 year old is smart enough to do better.

I often wonder what can be done to help these people escape the cycle of ignorance, but so far I have no clue.

Wait until she hears about dihydrogen monoxide…

As someone who kept up with the story from day one, I despise this man for what he did in his depraved mental state, and think he should be imprisoned for a long time to keep society safe from him. But at the same time I am against the death penalty no matter the crime, as I don’t believe the state should have the legal right right to execute anyone once they are not an immediate threat.

This is an old divide and conquer strategy that they have been engaging in for a while now. The Israeli right needs to keep the public afraid of them to stay in power, and promise security that way. It’s a stupid strategy if the goal is security, but the goal of theirs is far far more sinister.

I’m pretty sure Netanyahu miscalculated, he probably knew there will be an attack, but underestimated the scale of it. He was probably hoping to use that to strengthen his position and take off heat from his judicial reform programs, but he underestimated the extent of the attack.

Fascists tend to be very arrogant…

The 737 MAX has only been in service since May 2017, Obama left the White House in Jan 2017.