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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • I literally gave you a link from the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting, the national iranian broadcaster, whose head is appointed by Khamenei directly. If it is a wrong translation, they were the ones that made it. And by reading your own link, do you really give any presumption of innocence to someone who speaks at a Holocaust Denial Conference??

    Plus what internal consumption. If you say out loud “this country should not exist anymore” with a history of threats against that country, you should not get nuclear weapons. You can’t justify this because you were speaking to extremist elements inside your country. If anything that’s a counterargument.

    could also quote a lot of radical garbage from Bush or other worse nutjobs in the US

    I don’t think the US deserves nuclear weapons either for that matter. Bush is a war criminal like Khameini is and I’d have them trialed decades ago if I had any say about it.

    Israel is basically a failed state. The only solution now is a 1 state solution for Palestine-Israel after a period of “de-nazification” of Israel.

    Yes, this is a pretty good example of someone having a different opinion than me. On the contrary of what you say, I can indeed picture you as a human being with your own thoughts and ideas and family that you love. But your opinion is as true as the Catholic Church’s (also made of real people) was on heliocentrism.


  • I see you aren’t engaging most of my comment. That’s fine, hopefully it made you think at least.

    peaceful use

    You can’t claim things like “Israel must be wiped off the map” (Iranian source before you continue with the propaganda accusations) and pretend you are enriching uranium over the needed amount for civilian use for peaceful purposes.

    Iraq and WMDs

    No argument here, that’s just America doing American things. I’d have Bush and his whole admin at the Hague if it was up to me. Not that Saddam deserved better, but the Iraqi did.

    Last paragraph.

    And you’re right, Iran has a right to defend themselves. But they aren’t defending themselves in this situation. You don’t defend yourself by having a proxy invade then another take control of a country so you can have it lob missiles at a third one without endangering yourself.


  • Is it simply impossible for you to imagine that other peoples have different opinions and viewpoints on things?

    There are an infinity of viewpoints, and many (most?) of them will be wrong.

    • “Lebanon, Iran and the Palestinians can defend themselves” is not wrong.
    • “Lebanon and Iran are currently defending themselves” is wrong.

    Lebanon isn’t even included in this, Hezbollah is not Lebanon. Iran is attacking Israel. They could stop doing that anytime and have Israel leave them alone. That includes giving up on their uranium enrichment.

    Palestinians are a much more complicated situation, because the settler land theft is agression from Israel and should have stopped decades ago. But the current Palestinian leaders (both Hamas and Fatah) don’t actually care to solve that. They would rather have their citizens continue to die so they can continue getting richer. Which is why they encourage deadly attacks on civilian which will keep Netanyahu and his ilk in power, because Israelis like all humans tend to respond to violence with violence.

    These are human beings sick of imperialist aggression.

    Bullshit. How can you be so blind? Iran is led by right-wing theocrats leaders, they would be imperialist themselves if they could afford to. Actually they are, since they supported Syria when it fucking invaded Lebanon for 30 years. And then left Hezbollah to continue controlling the place, where it has more influence than the actual Lebanese governement, which is supposed to represent the Lebanese people.

    Hezbollah does not act in the interest of the Lebanese people, they are murderous thugs that obey their masters in Tehran. If they truly wanted to help Lebanese people, they would not be shooting at Israel. There are so many things in terrible shape in Lebanon they could be fixing, but no, they are a large part of the problem because they want control over making things better.


  • You know you can support the Palestinan cause without having to lie egregiously right. In terms of support, this is not “A first world, heavily subsidized, safe government” […] versus “a poor destitute region” alone.

    Like Israel has the US as an ally, there is massive financial support from different oil-rich, Middle Eastern countries in the infowar in favor of Palestine. From one side Iran, which is sworn enemies with Israel, and is financing Hezbollah in Lebanon. From another Qatar, where Hamas leaders are (were? I’ve seen reports of them moving so I may be out of date) living in luxury. Hell, even Russia is probably using their troll farms because making Israel look bad makes the US look bad and there is no way they would miss that chance.