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    “We do not need allies more devoted to order than to justice”
    -Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

  • §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ@lemmy.ml
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    Remember when Biden condemned the brutal police response against the BlackLivesMatter protest? That’s when Trump was in office and Biden was running against him. He stated there must be a right to assembly and freedom of speech. Yet when he’s put in a similar situation, it’s no different. The US is accelerating their decline to further line the pockets of the ruling class. It’s legitimately horrendous!

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    In moments like this, there are always those who rush in to score political points. But this isn’t a moment for politics.

    Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden

    i-voted

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    Pro Palestinian protests

    The president stressed that violent protests are not protected under the law

    Still won’t admit these are anti genocide protests, and obviously does not care about the “counter protestors” who attacked UCLA students.

    The beatings will continue until moral improves.

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    What i figure from this is that the only reasons the Democrat party doesn’t win more often in the US, is that they’re really, really, really bad at their jobs.

    Like take Hillary for instance. She only lost because she managed to look more incompetent than Trump. Now Trump is doing his darnest that no one will be more incompetent than him, but by all the starts in the universe, genocide Joe will give him a run for his money

    Stay tuned for the election with the worst presidential candidates that the US could produce. It’s so embarrassing, i fear my face might freeze in the cringe.

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          Ripping a comment word for word:

          Especially when subject to leftist criticism will they suddenly swing hard right. Progressive liberals will take all sorts of quasi-socialist positions, as long as they are arguing with a reactionary under an overarching reactionary climate.

          But as we saw with Obama and Clinton, they will easily swing right when offered the most tepid social democratic criticism, let alone fully Marxist ones, if they fall for the propaganda that claims neoliberalism is “adult politics,” “reasonable,” “centrist.” The same people who protested Bush’s wars and called for UHC in 2007 were defending Libya and Honduras and attacking UHC in 2016.

          Liberals, progressive or reactionary, are consummate opportunists. They have to be, by necessity. If your average worker maintained a consistent set of values and historical vision, we would all be revolutionaries by now. Turning on a dime to talk out both sides your mouth is the only way to uphold a liberal political party’s line. “Respectability politics” can only work if people disrespect historical continuity and their own good moral/class sense.

          The same day they tell a white supremacist that the police are racist and corrupt and that we need strong social programs, they will tell a leftist that community self policing/armed self defense and serve the people campaigns are ridiculous. To them this hypocrisy is nuance, but to anyone with clear historical vision and class consciousness it’s just hypocrisy and a clear sign of how a protofascist develops

          https://np.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/69fohm/what_is_meant_by_scratch_a_liberal_and_a_fascist/

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          Liberals always passively let capitalism decay into fascism, because fascism doesn’t harm the capitalist class. When forced to make a choice between organizing to overthrow the capitalist state and letting it decay into fascism, they will always choose fascism.

          The Freikorps in Germany for example that hunted down communists, socialists, and trade unionists were already being trained and funded by the government even before the Nazis had ever come into power.

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      Hilary has negative charisma and being a Democrat woman for her was also a negative. The woman part was the worst.

      These are not my feelings about her (well, the negative charisma is) but just my view on why she had little chance versus Don Cheetos.

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    Let’s highlight the actual points in this article instead of taking Hexbear at their word:

    emphasizing that violent protest is not protected under the law.

    Biden emphasized that “peaceful protest is in the best tradition of how Americans respond to consequential issues”

    “Whether it’s antisemitism, Islamophobia or discrimination against Arab Americans or Palestinian Americans, it’s simply wrong… In America, we respect the right and protect the rights for them to express that, but it doesn’t mean anything goes. It needs to be done without violence, without distraction, without hating and within the law.”

    The president also said “no” to a separate shouted question asking whether he thinks the National Guard should intervene in the campus protests.

    To summarize, he respects their right to protest and called for nonviolence without citing any side in particular. Notable that there have been violent counter-protestors.

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        Violence begins with cops or fascist agitators*. So far the students have had the discipline to not retaliate, which is what the violent agitators want.

        *Some of those who work forces…

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      Translation: We only allow “protests” that are ineffective and don’t cause any trouble for the ruling class

      Also, Lemmy.world user detected, opinion rejected.

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      Every single one of the US’s amendments came not through voting, or within the political system itself. Every single one was accompanied by violent and disruptive protest and the threat from the masses below.

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      Ok, but protests need to be done “without distraction”? That kind of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

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        Since there’s more than one of you ignorant settler narcissists replying to the above comment to the tune of “as long as I’m not inconvenienced…”, I’m not taking the time to respond to all of you individually: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE POINT OF A PROTEST IS, YOU COMFORTABLE SUBURBANITE COLONOIDS? THE POINT IS TO BE SEEN! THE POINT IS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO AN INJUSTICE!

        Now it shouldn’t surprise me that the sons and daughters of Kent State’s protestors have this take, but it disgusts me; because y’all wanna talk all this bullshit about failures of civics classes when your blueanon genocidairés fail to get the votes you think they’re automatically entitled to, then you’ll say some bullshit like “I’m against any protest I can’t ignore”. I hope you keep that same energy when it’s your face the government is forcing its boot down on; 'cause I’ll be dead by then-- and if I wasn’t? I’d laugh at you. I’d make jokes at your expense. I’d spit on your cause as I walked by. Finally, after all that got boring, I’d ignore you. THE EXACT SAME WAY Y’ALL DO RIGHT NOW.

        Death to the settlers. John Brown should’ve killed more slavers; maybe we’d have less settler treatbrains to deal with in the here-and-now.

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        I think he meant to stay on point. As in, don’t fall into antisemitism when you’re protesting Israel. Since that’s what he mentioned just before.

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      Whithout citing any side in particular.

      Do you really think Biden is talking about anyone other than the pro-Palistinian protesters in this context?

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      Name anything significant that changed with “peaceful protest” shit nothing changes when right-wing nut jobs stormed Congress.

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      No one cares about the uninformed State-Department-regurgitation you call an ‘opinion’ except for other uninformed settler wastrels sipping the same governmental vomitus; you collaborating dog.

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      Peaceful protests have not won anything. The Civil Rights Movement was not peaceful, despite liberal mythology.

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    “Violent protest is not protected — peaceful protest is," the president said. “It’s against the law when violence occurs. Destroying property is not a peaceful protest.”

    The president also said “no” to a separate shouted question asking whether he thinks the National Guard should intervene in the campus protests.

    The President is condemning violent protest and destruction of property here. It is still disheartening that this hasn’t changed his stance on Israel/Palestine.

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      Do note the Violent protesters" and “destructors of property” are the zionist infiltrators, not the antigenocide protesters. But Biden is so old, apparently everyone look the same to him.

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        You people always make the same excuses.

        “No! It’s not the people I align with who are violent! It’s the paid actors! No, it’s the Feds!”

        You have absolutely no evidence that all of the violence is being committed by “zionist infiltrators”.

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    President condemns illegal activity and antisemitism, supports protests. I’d be surprised by anything else.