Health experts say axing plan to block sales of tobacco products to next generation will cost thousands of lives

  • WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    So if banning cigarettes would support healthcare infrastructure, based on what you just told me that would be the government’s responsibility.

    • XbSuper@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      I think you missed something. Banning cigarettes takes money away from healthcare, it doesn’t put more into it.

      Smokers wind up paying almost 10x what they cost the system over their lives. Banning that income will only make things worse.

      • WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Cigarettes cause health problems, therefore banning them lowers the strain on a healthcare system.

        If the issue is truly just financial there are other ways to get that money.

        • XbSuper@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Except they also have to step on your rights, and body autonomy in order to do so.

          Let me aak you this as well… Do you support the war on drugs?

          • WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            You’re changing the topic. The government has the right to ban cigarettes because they have the right to support healthcare infrastructure.

            Whether or not they should ban them is a whole separate topic.

            • XbSuper@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              Whether or not they have the right, was never the argument here, it’s always been about whether they should or not.

              Dodging my question because it backs you into a corner really doesn’t help your side either.

              • WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                10 months ago

                Seems like a good thing to me. Let people decide for themselves, it’s not the government’s job to tell them what they can and can’t put in their body.

                Your exact words. You said nothing about if a government “should” do anything, you said it’s not their job. You lost the argument just move on.

                • XbSuper@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  10 months ago

                  I will move on, but only because you’ve started arguing on bad faith. Do better.

                  • WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    10 months ago

                    LOL if you actually think not allowing you to move the goal posts is “bad faith” then you truly are a dumbass.

                    Actually, that would perfectly explain why this is such a difficult concept for you.