• Dr. Bob@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    Just bewilderment. Because snubbing Harris will get you Trump. Who’s a great friend to Gaza /s. So cui bono?

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      Both are genocidal, letting the DNC get away with genocide solidifies their position. That’s the logic, that the DNC can get away with literal genocide as long as they aren’t the GOP, and in the eyes of Liberals, that’s correct.

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        6 hours ago

        You’re currently a Trump supporter. If you don’t want to be one, you can stop.

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          You’re currently a genocidal pig supporter. If you don’t want to be one, you can stop.

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          Nah, fuck Trump. The only way I could be seen as a Trump supporter is if you think voting for genocide should be the default.

          You’re currently batting for genocide, imperialism, climate collapse, and World War 3, but you can stop.

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            The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but right now we have to operate within it. The mathematics of that system entail the simple fact that if you discourage people from keeping Trump out, you are helping get Trump in. That makes you a Trump supporter.

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              The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but

              The hand-wringing isn’t the worst part, but it’s definitely the most annoying. “Don’t worry, I’m disavowing Harris while I vote for her in my non-swing-state, so it doesn’t count even as she uses those votes to claim legitimacy just like Biden did”.

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              The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but right now we have to operate within it

              Only if you think voting is the extent of political action.

              The mathematics of that system entail the simple fact that if you discourage people from keeping Trump out, you are helping get Trump in

              And if you encourage getting Harris in, you are helping Harris get in, who has promised imperalism, genocide, World War 3, and failed Climate action.

              That makes you a Trump supporter.

              In 20 years you’ll look back at yourself, if leftists have managed to prevent the end of the world, as someone who supported a fascist regime and refused to lift a finger against it. I hope you’ll come to your senses much sooner than that.

                • “Both sides are just as bad!” is the bullshit that got us the George W. Bush administration and the Iraq War.

                  Yet Obama did nothing to hold Bush Jr and his administration accountable for their crimes

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                  “Both sides are just as bad!” is the bullshit

                  It’s not that they are identical, it’s that delineating between the Hitlerites and the Strasserites just isn’t very meaningful compared to the understanding that they are wings of the same monstrous entity that needs to be destroyed. You don’t even need to Obamas embracing Bush and saying “same values” to see that, but seeing that makes denial inexcusable.

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                  I am taking the moral route and telling you to abandon the genocidal empire, both parties are monstrous and we either need to vote them out or revolt.

    • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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      7 hours ago

      Both hate Arabs and Muslims, Trump is just honest about it. Both support Israel unconditionally, the reality on the ground will be exactly the same, only the rhetoric will change.